You can afford the house, but the bills'll send you broke

Blog Post | Blog of Christine Milne
Wednesday 5th March 2008, 12:24pm

This was orginally published in Crikey's daily email today, March 5.

Let's imagine for a moment that the policies put forward in recent days work and, in a few years, more people are able to pay the purchase price for new homes again. Let's imagine - and this is easy to do - that these policies are implemented in a vacuum, without consideration of other, interlinked issues. What might be the flow-on effects?

Well, for starters, the dark roofed, eve-less, concrete boxes that people have bought are heating up as another record-breaking summer arrives and there is no immediate alternative but to crank up the air-conditioning. At a time when Kevin Rudd's emissions trading scheme is coming into play, raising energy prices, this is very unwelcome. To make matters worse, the price of oil will still be steadily rising and petrol prices going through the roof. The housing developments on the urban fringe have all been planned around freeways which are reaching gridlock, and, without any serious public transport infrastructure, there is simply nothing for commuters to do but climb into their cars each day.

Mortgages and rents might be more affordable, but people will really struggle to pay higher bills for transport and energy.

It's not far from here to the scenario described recently by world-renowned Australian transport planner, Professor Peter Newman, of eco-enclaves for the rich, surrounded by Mad Max suburbs. His warning is clear: unless we start a proper, holistic planning process now, factoring in climate change and peak oil, those who can afford it will move to efficient homes in the inner suburbs, well-catered for by public transport, and the vast bulk of people will simply be shut out.

Business as usual, inefficient housing is not a sustainable solution. We need to link any tax breaks, streamlined development processes, or whatever tools we use, to the construction of highly efficient housing stock - at least seven star. This is not hard to do. The UK is legislating to require all new housing stock and public buildings to be zero net carbon by 2016. For a marginal increase in building costs, you can dramatically reduce energy demand and therefore running costs for the life of the building.

Building on the urban fringe without fast, efficient mass transit is not a sustainable solution. We shouldn't forget the option of effective urban consolidation, but where we spread, it is vital that housing developments are planned around mass transit. With oil already at US$100 a barrel, and set to keep rising as supply constraints get worse and peak oil starts to bite, we cannot build suburbs where the only transport option is the private car.

According to the ABS, transport is right up there with housing in household expenditure. There's no point providing cheap housing to people but locking them into expensive transport.

It's about time our governments started to work constructively together to find solutions to housing affordability. Not being an expert in that area, I cannot pass judgement on whether the proposals of recent days might actually work. But one thing I do know is that we cannot address the issue - any issue - in a vacuum. If we ignore climate change and peak oil, if we fail to see that affordability is not just about purchase price, we will fail to meet the underlying goal - to help Australians who are struggling to make ends meet.

There is no reason why we can't address the housing crisis and help progress the shift to a carbon-free economy at the same time. But unless we deliberately decide to do it, the real danger is that we will entrench energy- and fuel-poverty and entrench a high-emissions lifestyle.

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Good thoughts. I am

Good thoughts. I am confused about one thing though. I went to an architect specifically to get an energy efficient home (and a relatively modest one at that) and the cost is projected at $1,000,000. This does not include the land.

I was gobsmacked. I can get the same building specs from a regular builder for quite a bit less than half this. This means it make no economic sense at all for me to build an efficient building. I'd be more than happy to pay an extra $200k for an energy efficient home, but half a million extra is way too much.

So where are these builders and/or building designs that are only slightly more than the cost of a regular building as mentioned above. I'd be very excited to know how to do this cost effectively.

Please help! Anyone!

by James on Wednesday 5th March 2008 at 8:12pm

This is a very good piece.

This is a very good piece. Very thought provoking.

It reminds me a lot of basic demand management as a way of controlling prices. Sure you can change the money supply to affect prices, but the sustainable way is to change behaviour.

Normally this kind of thinking is linked to communist conspiracy theories, but really it is just plain common sense.

If you don't need to trade because you have a comfortable life using few resources to meet your demands and have stable accommodation with family you can be with all the time, then what more can you ask for? Surely this is the "Green" ideal lifestyle that many members I know aspire to.

by Austin on Wednesday 5th March 2008 at 10:10pm

James, Did you mention

James,

Did you mention "bells and whistles" in your preamble to your architect? The current territory of the architect/energy efficient home is the very rich/very large home owner.

Drop me a line at bill@infolocal.com.au and I will offer a few suggestions.

by BilB on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 6:39am

I think you've missed a key

I think you've missed a key point here. People will complain and moan about higher energy prices that's for sure but we won't run out of electricity and the prices aren't going to go stratospheric (if you'll pardon the pun) since Australia relies on coal for power and we ain't running low on that any time soon.

No, the trouble won't start when prices rise. It'll be when we hit petrol rationing. Suddenly all those folks in the outer suburbs (that's me) won't be able to drive their V8 Commodores or Toyota Prados because they're simply not allowed to fill them up. That's when the shit hits the fan.

I wonder whether we'll see an automotive Dash For Gas in about 18 months time? LPG is like coal - we got plenty of it.

by Tricky Dicky on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 8:20am

A great piece. The

A great piece.

The convergance of Peak Oil with Climate Change is generating problems for houses that were built with the assumptions of benign weather and limitless cheap energy.

I know that it is becoming increasingly difficult - and expensive - to keep my own house within a comfortable temperature range.

New housing design standards and practices need to be created. These standards need to consider not just the new realities of hot summers and expensive energy, but the realities that are likely to emerge within the lifespan of the house - which is likely to include more incidence of extreme weather, and energy costs that make air-conditioning a very unattractive prospect.

by David on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 8:24am

It seems to me that a big

It seems to me that a big part of the problem is Australians' love of the fully detached house with a front and back yard. Having spent many years living in European cities with busy underground train and bus systems, it seems to me just a matter of time before our big cities move towards a denser inner city model, with 3- to 100-storey buildings dominating the landscape within 20 kms of the CBD.

The alternative is to have more cities with employment opportunities, encouraging movement out of Sydney and Melbourne towards rapid growth areas like the Gold Coast (where I live now). But there's no long-term public transport infrastructure in place for these new growth areas either. So the same urban sprawl ensues, with the same dependency on private cars, as these new growth areas grow ever outwards!

Sure, there's always lots of "planning" being done, but when it comes to buying up land and laying down money, local and State governments always get cold feet. Now why is that?

It's because governments today are constrained by a rightwing market orthodoxy which dictates that only private developers can "make things happen". We need State and Federal government in particular to make some "courageous" decisions and announce some massive expenditure on public transport NOW.

And it cannot all be funded by tolls: it needs to be cheap, affordable, preferably even FREE! Ah, but that has the stench of Joseph Stalin all over it, doesn't it? Sigh... So what else are they doing with all those taxes of mine - fighting wars for oil, etc.

We need a Snowy Mountains-style project where new immigrants are encouraged to come and work on big public transport projects in all the major cities and growth areas. It can be funded through the Future Fund and that big fat Surplus we're always hearing about. After all, this IS our future - right?

NB: It's "eave-less" not "eve-less". Unless you are talking about Arctic summers, which is a whole different story!

by gandhi on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 8:47am

James, you might check into

James, you might check into building a straw-bale house. Some state building codes permit them, and some rural areas have virtually no building codes.

Straw-bale has an R-50 insulation value and is supposed to be cheaper than conventional building.

Good luck getting a loan to do this in most areas! If it were me, I'd do most of the building myself.

There are a lot of books on straw-bale construction. You can find excellent ones at Barnes & Noble.

by sharon on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 10:48am

James, hopefully Mike Stasse

James, hopefully Mike Stasse will comment as he's an expert on energy efficient house design.

When we built our house 15 years ago we followed some ideas that just seemed like commonsense at the time. We have a light coloured metal roof that reflects the sun's energy rather than absorbing it, and there's insulation directly under the iron with those whirly hat things to let heat out. We put a verandah right around the house. We have sprinklers on the roof fed from the stormwater tank - on really hot days we turn it on to stop the roof heating up at all, and keep the windows closed to hold the cooler night air inside. We have "snakes" to put across doors and stop drafts in winter.

All pretty low tech and cheap, and we live quite comfortably in an area that goes to -5 in winter and 45 in summer.

by andrew on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 10:59am

Short-term, people can do a

Short-term, people can do a lot to cut heating costs. We've forgotten how our grandparents managed: They heated only one room in winter.

I well remember visiting my grandparents' home when it was cold as hell outside and passing through the frigid front parlor to the French doors that led to a combination sitting-room/dining-room that was heated with a coal stove. There was no central heat or other heat source of any kind.

Those old houses had no insulation, so even if you heated only one room, everyone still huddled around the coal stove on very cold days. Bedrooms were completely unheated.

You can duplicate this energy-saving technique in your home, just by hanging doors so that your living area can be completely closed off from the rest of the house. You can then heat only one room. Heat the bathroom only when it's in use. LIkewise the kitchen.

Electric space heaters are an option for doing this, but other options include natural gas or propane wall heaters--which will put out 32,000 BTUs--or one of those fake fireplaces that comes with a mantle, which can be electric, natural gas, or propane.

I heat this way, and my heating bills are a fraction of what they would otherwise be.

The water heater is another energy hog, heating water 24/7, when you probably only use hot water for an hour or two a day. It can be turned off at the breaker when not in use. When you turn it back on, you should have hot water 20 minutes later. Since breakers these days are often rather shoddy affairs, it might be wiser to install a switch. I keep intending to do this. I know from experience that if you're not using the water heater (because of plumbing repairs, etc.) it knock at least $20/month off your electric bill.

by sharon on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 11:09am

There's no reason an energy

There's no reason an energy efficient home needs to cost more than a regular one.

Here are plans for a 350 sf haybale home that you can build yourself for $10,000. It should be plenty for two people.

http://www.solarhaven.org/StarterStrawBale.htm

Here's a larger house:

http://www.solarhaven.org/NewStrawbale.htm

Now, I don't expect that you'd find 350 sf adequate, although it actually is adequate. Compared to these 120 sf houses, it's huge!

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses.htm

Here are some houses with a little different theme:

http://www.pacificdomes.com/shelter_domes.html

These little houses cost almost nothing to heat, are superinsulated, consume almost no resources to build, cost almost nothing to build, cost almost nothing in property taxes, insurance, maintenance etc. They don't take much electricity either because there aren't many lights, and even if you had AC (I wouldn't), you would only have to cool a very small superinsulated area. You can add on things like a composting toilet or greywater system for peanuts.

This is what the real eco-house people are doing, not the architects who want to sprinkle some green fairy dust on a McMansion.

by nl on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 11:45am

For all your ideas about

For all your ideas about rising home prices, mortgages, and paying the bills, and for the 20 million people not invited to the Australia 2020 Summit, the online community created a wiki so people across Australia could post, discuss, and vote on the best ideas for the country. It’s totally a grassroots effort. It’s free, can be anonymous, and isn’t being sponsored by any political party, business, union, or special interests. It’s just people who want to encourage an online national brainstorming session.

The site is at http://ozideas.wetpaint.com. There are pages for over 20 different issues (including housing) and even an online petition to get the best ideas heard at the actual Summit.

The more people know about it, the more ideas are submitted, and the better the discussion. It’s a great way for everyone to participate in the summit.

Jim
Wiki Creator

by Jim on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 12:38pm

Just remember how prices are

Just remember how prices are set in our economy. It is by whatever can be traded. Clearly someone thinks that people will part with more money to get an efficient design. But that doesn't necessarily mean that all the underlying components cost that same amount more.

by Austin on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 1:20pm

Christine featured on last

Christine featured on last weeks SBS insight program, http://news.sbs.com.au/insight/city_limits_541199

After watching the SBS program I was left pondering as to how Christine would have answered the question: "Which is better, high density housing which is relatively easy to service with public transport (but which makes self sufficiency for water, food, and energy an impossibility), or low density housing which is much harder to service with public transport (but in which water, food, and energy self sufficiency is more achievable)." For that matter what is Greens policy on cities, are you in favour of high density or low density?

I am of the view that solving the commuting cost and time problem is best addressed through a change in legislation. Make the employer bare the costs of employees commuting, and also pay the employees for the time that they spend doing it. Under this paradigm there is an incentive for employers to employ as locally as possible, provided of course that the people are sufficiently qualified, and an incentive for businesses to move closer to their work force in order to increase competitiveness. This will not solve the problem, but its a step in the right direction, and its a step which could be taken tomorrow.

by Zoltar on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 2:18pm

Zoltar, the question you

Zoltar, the question you raised is very important and I also would like to know what the official postion of the Greens is.

I attended Scott Ludlam's presentation on the future of energy in Perth and WA which included transport. The image that he painted was a light rail network that is connected to the existing heavy rail network. He said that in order to achieve this, we need walkable cities and denser housing to make public transport more efficient and practical.

If Scott's presentation is anything to go by, I would say that the Greens are favouring the high density housing path.

by Nez on Thursday 6th March 2008 at 5:40pm

James, their is no reason

James, their is no reason that an energy effiecient house should cost much more than a "regular" house. I think some builders and architects over design and spec out things that are not cost effective but make people feel good. I am currently building my own house and have found one common thread with contractors I have gotten bids from, they know very little if anything about energy efficiency, and what little they do know cost gobs of money and are of little value. That is why I have decided to do it myself. At this point in construction I am right at $53.00 per sq foot of living area. About half of "normal" construction in this area Omaha Nebraska USA. If you could find somebody to do this it would run 100-$125 per sq foot so not much if any extra. The problem is finding somebody that will build it using the latest technologies and being reasonable on their bid and not gouging. The reason I am doing myself is contractors are not willing to be reasonable and they are not familiar with new technologies. My heating will be completely off grid, I am using solar air heaters and solar radiant heat in the floors. This is a 2880 sq foot house and I will not have a heat bill from the power company because of the design features and insulation I have used.

You can see pictures of my house at http://www.nebraskasolarsolutiosn.com

Martin

by Martin on Friday 7th March 2008 at 12:55am

Am I to believe as a

Am I to believe as a interloper,rather than as a troll,Both Milne and posters are stuck somewhere on this or that,and not being an expert!?High density living versus self sufficiency.!?This debate is so old that the fermentation process has been recycled so often it is almost God!So what needs to be shown proved or other wise tested,isnt the differences but the similarities.Take my word for it even thirsty heat sink cities are in fact micro-climates abundant.Some people in the Greens need to enthuse its questioners with this thought and give it true scientific reading measuring and recording.I waxed eloquently to someone younger out here west of Coffs Harbour,about seeing no-one has tried a Giunness book of Records stuff of growing a pumpkin as a height vertical to the ground that is possible!?So looking at some tall wind swept trees monsters larger than a series of hands in sequence,the challenge needs to take place in country and city,and as simple and or complex as one likes.Seeing the pumpkin plant has large leafy sets that as a total would cover as shade a good square measure..what then is the feasability..of going up trees to increase nutrient supply to both humanity and animals!?With ecology and tree and inhabitants health in mind,but producing pumpkins!?The way to find a real answer to housing and self sufficieny is to test your own skills rather than make someone else overwork..where the answer may not reduce the problem into being acceptable,and, in doing, more flexible than what one may have realised.Take the challenge now..how can I find a human solution for others..when I am burdened by my own!?Enter the community-minded.the darers and doers..not put off by intellectual summary ,power,prestige,status or the sometimes cosmic muffins we..I say we ...all become.Waffle Crete promoter,and Hilsch Vortex Tube from ExAir Darwin I am. Not in a commercial sense..directly. Want to solve a few problems in your mind!? Start with your hands instead..and you can scratch your head wondering wether the mind thing is working!?Bring on the carbon dioxide climate change gas friendly fuel!?Which is Carbon Dioxide to fuel by biological micro-organisms.Maybe you all will follow and take note this time..rather than the crap... it cannot be done! Hey! Bob!

by philip travers on Friday 7th March 2008 at 9:08pm

A fantastic brief on a

A fantastic brief on a serious issue, I have spent some time in the building industry and there's nothing more frustrating than having to work through your day contributing blood & sweat to yet another monument to ignorant short term reactionary economics.
James you whip like a rawhide genius, the responses are all there. As you can see above its entirely probable that you just chose the wrong architect. How much did the consultation cost?

There's a movement in the ACT which is attempting to retro design existing low income housing for more sustainable living, both environmentally and for health. (surprising how these are often not connected at all)

Simple additions like an air trap at the front door (for a cold climate especially) ie another door and small atrium to stop hot air leaving the home under pressure every time its opened. Deciduous vines on north facing walls, composting and veggie gardens, energy efficient appliances, rain water catchment and small grey water systems. All retro fitted to a home which ironically probably had tenants with a more sustainable living ethos than the more recently devolved consumer.

Its actually cheaper to design and construct a single home along environmentally conscious lines rather than the other way if approached sensibly and costs considered over a 10 year period. Unfortunately the real devil here is the momentum of scale economics. It took the American EPA over 30 years to have the auto manufacturers and fuel industry's remove lead from petrol (Devra Davis "when smoke ran like water" a good read), it may take just as long to have the hugeness of the construction industry to actually implement intelligent design criteria.

I have just returned from a job of work assisting installing an off grid solar system on a property where attempts to mitigate capital costs resulted in the new kit home owner including cheaper fully electric storage hot water, electric oven, etc with their oddly orientated kit home.
The additional costs to supply and build the PV & Diesel hybrid system to provide energy for this power hungry home are only mitigated by greenhouse grants system, the end result is still a false economy.

These people exist within a culture that prides itself in rejecting 'greeny' ethos as impractical and extremist, because of this they are often blinkered to many well thought out concepts. In the same manner as some environmentalists refuse to see the forestry industry as actually necessary. (even if tragically mismanaged).

Its the same culture that exists within the building industry. Architects and engineers aside, the folk who actually implement the ideas are on an entirely different level, less involved with the oxygen rich strata that has no problem moving a 10 tonne steel beam with a pen or mouse.

Developers often become confused in the same way as the new home owners above, immediate economic limitations demand short cuts with negative effects which will be felt for years.
Just like the building and big finance industries, just like the whole of the energy & resource sector, there are still many Local councils with legislators and employees who believe that Global warming and environmental issues are just Greeny propaganda.
These are getting older and are less likely to change their attitudes with every passing day.

Until encouraged into seminars and work training programs or by hip pocket imperatives it will continue to be extremely difficult to shepherd the herd through the gate.

A few tv shows and magazine articles and some dodgy green points system just will not cut it.
It has to come from both ends, we have to apply a pincer tactic, federal legislation, State encouragement and council level education incentive and imperatives.

No new development should be able to go ahead with out its principles having had at least a high school level certificate education in environmental design for healthy and sustainable living. Not being able to abrogate responsibility and future personal moral liability to a few haplessly disconnected architects and engineers would be a good start.

Bless their little overpaid wings.

by shyt on Saturday 8th March 2008 at 12:55pm

James (comment 1), just

James (comment 1), just stick to a standard run of the mill design (probably even as designed by one of the myriad of building companies) then have a consultant recommend changes and additions to make more environmentally sustainable (eg. gray / solar water systems etc.) and suited to your needs. You may need to be careful to check with your local councils, as I know in Victoria, a number of the councils will only approve designs that fit their strict criteria to fit in with other residences / period designs / color schemes etc.. As for Hay Bale, good grief, no council in any city area I know of would ever approve.

I agree with a comment above that it will take a some time before Governments / Councils change building codes to fully assist environmental building, but they are changing slowly. Remember you could not have water tanks or gray water systems in the suburbs as both were considered health hazards, but within the last few years most councils approve if a certified system is installed.

My prediction is, that within the next 10-20 years, environmental designs will be the only ones available, but it will take the handing of legislation / planning controls to the generation that are currently at High School, and being educated with an environmental leaning. These students are being brought up with well publicised environmental issues, and should accelerate the process of environmental living standards, when they reach managerial levels.

In Christines article she talks about the importance of mass transit systems for the new growth suburbs, and I agree that these are a necessity component which should be mandated before any new sub division is given the go-ahead. However I am not sure what can be done for existing recently developed outer suburbs, where no transport corridors have been left, and roads, in may areas, are not even generally wide enough for buses, let alone a light rail system. One suggestion I do have (like many before me) is to move business out of the central CBD in each city to central satellite centers in the suburbs, where transport of a medium volume (eg. bus / light rail) can service.

Another suggestion above, is to build regional growth centers. This was tried during the 70s (Albury and Wodonga) and found generally to be a disaster. The 3 major problem areas were,

1. Cost of land. Initially quite cost effective, but skyrocketed as more business moved to the area, and required increased services / infrastructure, until land was cheaper in Melbourne (also impacted by land speculators).
2. Cost of transport. Goods had to be shipped to either Melbourne or Sydney for distribution. Fuel costs for trucks was too high, and cost of upgrading rail infrastructure was going to be billions, even in the 70s (probably now 10s of billions) which no Government could afford without seriously impacting other Government services.
3. Cost of labour. As most required goods / services in the area had to be transported from a capital city, cost of living for the average worker, degenerated to be greater than in Melbourne, so workers wanted to be compensated.

One area I believe that Christine did not mention is that, I believe all planning will be partially wasted unless we restrict the growth of migration into Australia. What will be the use of reducing carbon emissions by 60% by 2020, if we only increase the levels again by, say 30%, from increased population (eg. Melbourne is increasing in population by 1,500 approx per week, all merrily producing carbon emissions). It may be hard to swallow, but if we keep allowing population increases into this country at the rate we currently are, I doubt that we will ever even meet the 2020 60% target.

by Grant on Sunday 9th March 2008 at 9:59am

I think the piece overstates

I think the piece overstates the difficulties Aussies face. It's not true that we have no control over our power consumption, and thus bills. In the one-tonne CO2 lifestyle piece I wrote about nine guidelines for living a lower-carbon intensive lifestyle. Six of them, #2-#6, are things which will reduce your bills overalll,

2. use cool drinks and fans not airconditioning, jumpers and hot drinks not heating, hang washing out to dry, change to CFLs and pull plugs out on appliances not in use
3. Don't fly in aircraft at all.
4. bye-bye cars: for a journey under 5km, walk. Under 15km, bike. Over that, public transport.
5. consume mainly fresh fruit and vegies, grains and legumes, avoid processed containerised food
6. reduce meat consumption to under 12kg/year (0.25kg/week)
7. for consumer goods, borrow rather than buy, secondhand rather than new

The ABS said that in 2003-4 the average Australian household spending was $893 weekly.
- about $185 on food, alcohol and tobacco
- $139.25 on transport, $125.08 of which on cars
- about $25 on domestic fuel and power

My suggestions if followed - let's forget about buying secondhand and stuff for the moment - would save about $85 on food and drink, $15 on domestic fuel and power, and $100 on transport, or $200 weekly in all.

Of course not in all suburbs is there public transport available, but many journeys are short and could be walked or biked. I don't know of any Aussie surveys of different trip lengths, but to give us an idea this Swedish survey in 2001 found "most trips are short, 40 per cent are shorter than 3km, 56 per cent are under 5 km." So it's quite plausible for the average Aussie household, even absent public transport, to halve their vehicle use; this would double their vehicle's life, halve their fuel use and maintenance needs, so that the $125.08 on the car would become $75.93, a saving of $50.16. Added to the food, drink, and domestic fuel and power savings, this gives us $150 in all.

Thus, the average Aussie household can by simple everyday measures save $150-$200 a week. That'll make a big difference to families feeling financial pressure, and will pay off a mortgage quite a bit more quickly.

Absolutely we should have more mass transit, better-designed suburbs, energy-efficient housing, and so on - but we don't have to wait until that happens to get acting.

It's quite reasonable that a federal Senator will focus on what government can do; but we should not forget what we as individuals can do. We often look for difficult and expensive solutions when simple and money-saving solutions are already here. We could put in heaps of insulation, spending something like $8,000, and save 10kWh electricity a day on the AC - or we could turn off the 2,500W AC, turn on a 50W fan and have a cool drink - and also save 10kWh a day. Spend money and save energy, or save money and save energy. Of course, this requires us to change our lifestyle a bit, and a politician who wishes to be re-elected will probably not want to tell us we're responsible for our own problems.

Again, government action absolutely has a place. But individual action does, too.

by Kiashu on Sunday 9th March 2008 at 8:18pm

I hate to sound cynical but

I hate to sound cynical but I do not believe people will react until they are forced to. Folks will keep driving V8s until the petrol is too expensive. They will buy bigger and bigger houses until the utilities are too expensive.

Basically, I believe we are on course to run aground and maybe it's the best thing that can happen. Until our systems are shown to be as fragile and artificial as they are, only the few will act in a sustainable way.

Gary

by Gary Franceschini on Monday 10th March 2008 at 11:54am

You could say the same about

You could say the same about water, that no-one would change unless forced to by law or circumstance. And yet progressive pricing (in Qld) or trivial water restrictions (in Vic), combined with an "every drop counts" advertising campaign... has reduced water consumption, roughly halving it in domestic Brisbane, dropping it by 25% or so in Melbourne.

If it works for water consumption, I don't see why it shouldn't work for electricity, natural gas, petrol, etc consumption.

Make the call, combine it with pricing and laws, subsidies and tariffs, and so on - and people will respond.

by Kiashu on Monday 10th March 2008 at 11:13pm

Sadly, Gary F, you are more

Sadly, Gary F, you are more right than wrong. The nature of the problem requires a whole community response which can only be initiated thorough our whole community organising body, government. But what we have here is government claiming to protect the communities interests by doing nothing. Or next to nothing. If there was ever a case, and a need, for a single issue refferendum, this is it.

One of my pet environmental housing passions is a version of a housing style, with medieaval roots, that I first saw in (articles) Italy. In the Itallian form a house presented to the surrounding streets a high solid brick wall (vine covered). Inside the wall an earthen cover sloped down towards a large central courtyard. The earth roofed dwelling presented a glass wall to the court yard from all of the surrounding rooms. The beauty of this design, which is reflected in the work of Californian architect Malcolm B Wells, is that the dwelling occupies less land (400 square metres), retains much of that land as grassed or garden area, has substantially more lighting and ventillation than conventional fence-to-fence-blob on-block type housing constructions, and is very energy efficient. The only disadvantage is that you lose that dubiously important architectural statement. In this construction the architecture is on the inside. The view is entirely under the occupiers control and there is no need for curtains. In my version of this design a whole street of the dwellings are created in a row terrace style, then the earth is replaced, and the landscaping begins. There is plenty of scope for individualising in the ammenities features of the design. Applause to M.B. Wells for imagineering this style in the sixties and seventies. We may have all seen hundreds of these dwellings but have never realised.

by BilB on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 5:22am

Gary @20. As a counter to

Gary @20. As a counter to the cynical, I was at an abattoir yesterday. Now forgetting the inefficiencies and ethics of meat eating for a moment, you would expect an abattoir to be in red neck reactionary territory. Well they are reactionary - to price.

They have covered both of there wash down ponds and are now generating enough power from the methane to run the entire plant and sell power back to the grid. Not only that but the tallow, that doesn't end up in soap, makes biodiesel and powers their delivery fleet.

I was heartened by this story anyway as it means their is hope. This abattoir has decided that peak oil is a very real threat to business, and that electricity is only going to get more expensive.

by mcfarm on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 5:34am

Excellent post, mcfarm.

Excellent post, mcfarm. Thankyou!

by BilB on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 9:31am

BilB @22 Earth berm walled

BilB @22 Earth berm walled houses are not that unusual in Australia, and I happen to live in one. The beauty of this system is that 1 metre below the surface, the earth temp is a constant 17 degrees C in my region. No need for cooling in Summer, and in winter it is much easier to raise the temp a few degrees from 17 degrees than from the minus 3 or 4 outside - this can be done with trombe walls and be solar passive. The earth berms also make the roof accessible for gutter cleaning, solar panel maintenance etcetera.

Whilst a clear sod roof is a beautiful thing, the problem for Australia is that it makes rainwater recovery near impossible. In fact you would have to water the roof in Oz to keep it alive so that the plants could shade and cool the roof. Otherwise you would end up with a very hot large thermal mass directly overhead. Not to mention the super strength roof members required and the leak potential. The extra cost over a well insulated, water harvesting, light coloured tin roof is enormous (by a factor of 4 from memory). There are a few earth shelter houses in Oz, but not many can justify the extra expense and lack of water harvesting ability.

Aesthetic consideration? A sod roof covered with solar panels, solar HWS, TV antenna and satellite dish, is probably not such a beautiful thing.

by mcfarm on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 10:26am

I think Christine on Insight

I think Christine on Insight was brilliant. All I can say is I cant believe how much Peter Garrett has turned around. If you do a search on www.youtube.com and listen to some of his old songs he sounds like an old left activist. Now he has just become part of the political deadwood of a ALP machine.

The rates of reposessions are increasing because "working families" simply can only take so many financial blows. I think Bob Brown needs to talk Kevin Rudd into taking a trip to Germany and France to visit some low cost affordable sustainable housing developments in those countries and bring back some ideas that can be adapted here. While Kevin is over there he should have a look at the European public transport system too.

by Daniel Taylor on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 1:54pm

mcfarm (comment 25) your

mcfarm (comment 25) your home sounds efficient, but I bet you do not live in a suburb of a major city. No council would approve the design for suburbia.

What we need are practical, very energy efficient home designs (not architect designed due to costs involved), that can be designed and built by the local home builder, yet still receive approval from the local council. The homes also need to be priced at a level where the average young family can afford to buy (probably smaller and cheaper than the current home designs). These are the energy consumers of the future, not the mac-mansion owners of the present, who probably have the money not to worry about the amount of energy they consume.

Kiashu (comment 19) sounds more like a socialist manifesto than a number of solutions. As I have said in a number of comments, emission reductions will need to start with business reductions that are positive savings on their profit and loss statements. If any Government tries to legislate to force savings, that severely impact the living standards of the average Australian, you can bet they will be thrown out at one of the following elections.

From every thing I have heard over the past few months, I believe we will still be talking about emission reduction targets, or how to meet them, for the next 10+ years.

by Grant on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 2:40pm

Originally posted here -

Originally posted here - thought it was relevant to the discussion here.

James's house is made of straw and has a turf roof covered in flowers. He is passionate about eco homes and deeply proud of the cottage near Dumfries. His kitchen is made from a cedar that blew over in a Glasgow park. His sink came from a skip. To one side is a Moroccan marbled shower room, to the other are sofas and a log-burning stove. He sleeps in a galleried bedroom. A compost loo and rainwater filtration system complete the picture.

The total cost: £4,000.

And it's not hard to do it yourself, he says. "Straw is perfect for a beginner. It's easy to work with and you can make your house any shape you want. You can use straw to make any kind of buildings – from a four-storey office block to a house I know, which is a spiral. Go mad, have fun, start living!"
James' tips:

1. Build the foundations
I made a solid, 2ft-high base from rocks. It's sort of like building a solid dry-stone wall – you don't need mortar. Take time to get the rocks to fit together well, but it's good to leave gaps; this will ventilate the straw and keep it dry.

2. Add the wooden floor
You need a wooden frame on which to lay your flooring and build the walls. I used flat reclaimed timbers as joists, laying them in a grid and nailing them together. To create a curve at the front, I used thick plywood. The whole thing just sits on the stones – the straw-bale walls will hold it down.

3. Assemble the roof frame
Make the roof frame, so that it's ready to go on as soon as the walls are up. Start with a sturdy frame the same shape as the base. Attach the rafters and fix them together in a tepee shape. It's easiest to hold it all together with screws.

4. Walls and windows
I used 200 oat-straw bales to make my house. They cost £1 each. First, lay a complete layer of bales around the edge of the base. Using twine, stitch these to the wooden base. Build upwards, stacking the bales like bricks. Drive thin, pointed wooden stakes through them at intervals to hold them together. I got the walls up in five days – with help from friends. You can cut the straw to fit any shape you like, and stuff extra bits in any gaps. All my windows came from skips. I laid a polythene membrane between the frames and the straw, to protect the frames from damp.

5. Get the roof on
Using plenty of manual labour, lift the roof frame into position. Use some stakes to attach it to the straw walls. I built a galleried bedroom into the roof space, laying a tree-trunk through the span of the roof to support the bedroom floor. I nailed on wooden slats in overlapping rows on top of the roof and covered it in natural rubber pond liner. Then a layer of turf went on top, along with a handful of flower seeds.

6. Render the outside
I used a mix of gravel, sand and water from the loch, and added quicklime. This makes hot lime render, which you can slap on while it's warm and make interesting shapes with.

via Independent

by Tim Norton on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 3:26pm

Mcfarm, Apart from better

Mcfarm,

Apart from better temperature control the key features of the Wells formula are dual use of limited space and aspect control. Consider Sydney's middleage suburbs (starting from Rockdale and arcing half way around the city) where houses were built on long narrow blocks near to fences on either side. Most of the windows in these houses were on the long sides shaded by neighbours houses and curtained for privacy. A substantially useless formula as both a living space and a recreation space. And todays houses designed for acreage but built on 600 sq metre blocks are no better. Furthermore todays houses are roofed and guttered in materials approaching half a millimetre thick. We are charging headlong into an insurance catastrophy. As extreme weather strengthens the trend now is for whole suburbs at a time to be affected by fire, hail, wind, and tornedoes. The Wells formula is vulnerable only to flood, and that is a risk for the contents, not the house.

Grass roofs are more of a gimmick. The thickness of the overburden is the key element in supporting a healthy landscape of trees, shrubs, garden plants, and turf, above without requiring watering. I should hasten to add that I have never built one of these houses, though the time may not be too far away. If my current house was destroyed in a bush fire I would seriously consider this as the replacement.

by BilB on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 3:42pm

Grant@27. You are right I

Grant@27. You are right I don't live in suburbia, but you are wrong about earth bermed walls and councils. The bermed walls will pass council codes and the BCA if they meet engineering specs for structural strength and damp proofing/drainage. They do not need to be architect designed, only engineer certified.

Re straw bails, they are increasingly being approved in the burbs, and I have been involved with a few. The thing to remember is that the walls are only one of many costs in building, and although excellent insulators, straw bail walls are not structural. This means they require load bearing and tie down supports materials for the roof. I once had a scale of relative building component costs at one time, I think the walls were 5 to 12% of total costs. btw that was for all walls - internal and external depending on materials used.

Another point about straw bail construction is that at 2 foot (600mm) thick, they require a significantly larger footprint for the same internal volume. I'd like to see a total energy audit on the larger slab/floor required and the larger roof too - there's no such thing as a free lunch.

by mcfarm on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 4:06pm

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